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gurujack
05-23-2008, 02:25 PM
let them know your tired of it.

fill out this efax, (http://www.americansolutions.com/actioncenter/petitions/?Guid=54ec6e43-75a8-445b-aa7b-346a1e096659) its takes about 20 seconds.

utmtman
05-23-2008, 03:50 PM
Thats dumb. Funny that people keep thinking we need to explore and find more fuel oils. Thats a crock. Hell we have hundreds if not thousands of capped oil wells just waiting for a place to process it. We need more refineries not oil exploration. My sons oil drilling company is still drilling and capping wells for the some day when they will sell them to a refinery.

bukhrn
05-23-2008, 04:06 PM
Thats dumb. Funny that people keep thinking we need to explore and find more fuel oils. Thats a crock. Hell we have hundreds if not thousands of capped oil wells just waiting for a place to process it. We need more refineries not oil exploration. My sons oil drilling company is still drilling and capping wells for the some day when they will sell them to a refinery.If we need so many refineries, why are the big companies selling them to Mexico, or attempting to bulldoze them, (Bakersfield)with a trumped up claim that it was losing money at that refinery.

gurujack
05-23-2008, 07:35 PM
Thats dumb. Funny that people keep thinking we need to explore and find more fuel oils. Thats a crock. Hell we have hundreds if not thousands of capped oil wells just waiting for a place to process it. We need more refineries not oil exploration. My sons oil drilling company is still drilling and capping wells for the some day when they will sell them to a refinery.

I'm not saying its the solution, but its something. Why not let the people you voted in know that you want something done about the current situation with the ever rising gas prices. They are "our" elected officials, and they represent us, so why not let them know how we feel in order for them to represent us appropriately. What I think is dumb is complaining to your ( your is a general term, I'm not singling anyone out) neighbor about it and leaving it at that. Or not...and we can let it get to 6,7,8,9,10 dollars a gallon and watch our economy collapse.... I'll be fine either way :)

utmtman
05-24-2008, 01:12 PM
If we need so many refineries, why are the big companies selling them to Mexico, or attempting to bulldoze them, (Bakersfield)with a trumped up claim that it was losing money at that refinery.

I agree they bulldozed one in Utah as well. But did you know that there is a pipeline from Colorada and from Utah that connects up in Wyoming and than goes to Canada to a refinery? It pumps the oil there to be refined than it is shipped back to the US as oil, gas, diesel and so on but we pay their refining prices for it. Thus also pushing out prices up.

gurujack, you think they dont know. They dont give a damn. Its the enviromentalists, fatalists, and liberals that prevent our having refineries. And yes we bulldoze those that are getting old and sell others just to appease the tree huggers. The al gores who go around scaring the chit out of everyone about the end of the earth being around the corner. And us causing our demise in the next ten years. Heck people been telling us the end is near for over 100 years.

gurujack
05-25-2008, 05:26 AM
I agree they bulldozed one in Utah as well. But did you know that there is a pipeline from Colorada and from Utah that connects up in Wyoming and than goes to Canada to a refinery? It pumps the oil there to be refined than it is shipped back to the US as oil, gas, diesel and so on but we pay their refining prices for it. Thus also pushing out prices up.

gurujack, you think they dont know. They dont give a damn. Its the enviromentalists, fatalists, and liberals that prevent our having refineries. And yes we bulldoze those that are getting old and sell others just to appease the tree huggers. The al gores who go around scaring the chit out of everyone about the end of the earth being around the corner. And us causing our demise in the next ten years. Heck people been telling us the end is near for over 100 years.

A seemingly futile attempt at change is still an attempt.

utmtman
05-25-2008, 05:26 PM
An interesting read;
What makes up the price of a gallon of gas?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2008-05-24-gas-breakdown_N.htm?csp=34

papahog
05-25-2008, 08:54 PM
It is all a matter of supply and demand. As the world demand for oil increases so will the price. I believe we will see 10 dollar a gal gas in a few years.

Even if we could pump and refine our own oil we could probably sell it for more to Japan and China than we pay from OPEC. Follow the money. Big oil propped up by the present administration and the tax incentives they receive will continue to profit at record levels no matter what.

Nuclear power and electric or electric assist transportation vehicles is the answer. When gas is 15 dollars a gallon we will see electric vehicles all over the road. Tomatoes will be 22.95 a pound.

granet
05-26-2008, 01:09 AM
to all that posted your information is semi correct. Firstly the pipelines in the west feeding through Wyoming are flowing the other way-when are you guys going to to start to realize that 60 % of your oil comes from Canada especiallyAlberta and Saskachewan its pumped to Billings and refined then pumped back to us we pay around $5.35 a gallon for regular gas. Here in Calgary im standing on the largest lake of oil reserves in the world - we drill 2500 holes a year to be capped and we used to have 5 refineries here now one. As long as oil is on the open market and can be artificially speculated on and its prices dictated by a few boardrooms we are going to get hosed (pardon the pun) we have to remove our oil from the world market and reform our own marketing board from speculation in other words a North American oil producing executive. We have more than enough oil to last us for 250 years it was just cheaper to bring it in from elsewhere- now its not -a 70 dollars a barrel of oil was the profit making amount to most companies lets get our governments to peg it there and lets keep it for ourselves -if the chinese want to pay 130 dollars a barrel for opec oil let them but dont let our governments sell ours on the world markets - the buck stops here!
regards
Granet

donnie
05-26-2008, 04:22 AM
IV had several of these sent to me in the past.
And, like the ones before, Iv signed them and sent them on their way.
I really wonder if they, the people these are intended for, pay attention to them at all?

acwhite
05-26-2008, 11:26 AM
Granet, I think you have it right...

The US has enough oil also to last a couple of hundred years. As long as we are in the world market it will cost us dearly. The US economy was shaped on cheap transportation and now that is gone we had better learn how to live in a cave.

utmtman
05-26-2008, 06:18 PM
Granet LOL funny!!!!!! I am willing to bet you a grand thats 1000 dollars that the oil is going to canada. I know cuz I helped lay them. I also know cuz half the wells pumping from Utah and Colorado my son drilled and some of them he sold to an oil company in Canada. Than I will also make you aware that the refinery in Utah, North Salt Lake to be exact has not refined oil in years and the fuel it is holding and selling is shipped to them from Canada. Sinclair Oil trucks from another refinery in Wyoming to western states and that fuel was also refined in Canada and sold back to the US. There are hundreds of capped wells in Utah and Colorado and more dug daily and capped. Canada is not the only country with a large quantity of oil. They say the oil shale in Utah alone would supply the US for the next 500 years. The oil in Alaskas north slope would supply the world for 200 years.

golden
05-27-2008, 12:57 AM
No one has mentioned the billions the oil companies are making in profit. I think they could do with alittle of what the working man, or, and woman is having to cope with. Do I buy my meds, food or gas. Our fifthwheel is just sitting for right now.

dlrupper
05-27-2008, 09:22 AM
It's worth a try and the time it takes to send it. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.