How would YOU mount a tv in a motorhome?

[betsytom]

Bet it would not be like Kermit Fisher does at Phoenix USA .
Its astounding that anyone would even THINK think of doing it this way, bizarre that Kermit goes ahead and does it -:eek:

Remember, Kermit says that Phoenix is the 'standard of excellence'.

Did not get alot done, when I saw what I saw it was time for more beer, alot more beer-really alot more beer-by 9:00 pm I/we had run out of beer, probably a good thing.

http://www.betsy-tom.smugmug.com/

Doesn't look good gallery

[jeffmue]

Oh that is unbelievable!

[whodo]

OK did the 4 screws go into the factory TV mount holes that are standard on flat screen TVs, or did they just mount them into the plastic case of the TV??

Now if they used the 4 mount hole inserts that came on the TV factory, then you have to give them credit for doing that part correctly.

You have to give them credit :eek: for cutting the plywood mount to allow for proper air ventilation. They at least did that even if it wasn't a very clean looking cutout, but at least they did it where you couldn't see it, and besides that they used some fancy trim to cover it all up so you wouldn't have to see it when watching TV.

Now as far as there choice of material used to mount the TV, it may not be the best but, remember they have to keep cost down :D

I have seen a lot worse in Motor Homes, Travel Trailers, 5th wheels.

Prime example: In my POS MH, they didn't even mount the TV to anything. It was placed in a cut out similar to yours and a wood trim face plate was mounted in front of it to keep it from falling out!! No mount of any type, nothing to keep it from vibrating around while traveling. :mad:

Look on the bright side, at least this isn't a major problem, or a real difficult one to remedy, like some of the others you have found.

Now don't you feel better http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45/Browzin/LaughingChimp.gif

[jeffmue]

LOL! My tv monitor was "placed" in the dash with a very tight fitting plastic trim and then screwed in, and just to make sure it doesn't shift they used this awesome velcro system.

It's just like houses.... as long as it looks good, who cares how it's built.

[betsytom]

whodo, all but one went only into the tv cabinet- regrettably they were a tad off and missed three of the four bosses, a picuture did not load that shows this and I will upload it again.

[betsytom]

whodo, got the pics up, figured out what I think happened with the rusting, curious as to if others agree.

jeffmue, things just got even more bizarre, take a look-at this point I would have preferred the velcro method.

http://www.betsy-tom.smugmug.com/

'Doesn't look good' gallery

[whodo]

Betsytom

Whodo
Now if they used the 4 mount hole inserts that came on the TV factory, then you have to give them credit for doing that part correctly.

After looking at those pictures I need to go back and edit the above quoted line out of my previous post! I wanted to at least think they would be smart enough to mount it on factory mount holes.

That has to be the %#@!*& workmanship I have ever seen. There's mounting holes supplied by the TV manufacture and they were to lazy to use them.

Sorry after seeing that I couldn't look at the rest of the pictures, not sure I could handle what I might see.

[betsytom]

whodo; thank you for taking the time to look at and comment on what your own eyes tell about Kermit Fisher and Phoenix USA.

When you are up to spending a few more minutes- go back to this gallery and take a look at the picture that shows another example of the quality of the electrical workmanship from Kermit Fisher.

Splicing/joining electrical conductors in the manner that Phoenix did in this area is a clear and serious violation of the National Electrical Code and the RVIA standards with regard to coach wiring as RVIA bases their standards on the minimum standards set forth by the NEC.

Code requires that conductors be spliced inside readlily accessible junction boxes protected/closed by a box cover.

This is dangerous stuff.

[murffdog]

Now I see what your talking about, what a piece of crap.

[jeffmue]

Holy crap! Now that's unbelievable betsytom. Do they have a RV'er magazine out there that gets national attention? I experienced similar service with Aetna Specialty Pharmacy "different examples but the same poor quality and unacceptable customer service". Once the article was released Aetna changed a lot of it's practices and "almost" bent over backwards to placate me.

If you wrote an article that got published nationally, it would get Kermit Fisher's attention and they would have to address it. Food for thought my friend.

[betsytom]

Hi Jeff, I was going to write to the mags we used to subscribe to but I decided that really nothing would be accomplished, these publications exist only to hype and represent manufacturers.

I decided that contacting the RVIA would be the better route, but guess what they cared less about things than the owner of the Company who made our coach-ALL they care about is that the companies who build rv's pay their 'union dues' to RVIA, so long as they pony up the cash they will continue to get the right to slap the sticker on a piece of poo, nothing-except not paying the fee will ever stop it.

If anyone doubts what I say, our coach has a nice shiny RVIA sticker, in two places I believe.

Appreciate you comments.

[jeffmue]

That sucks but it's not surprising. It's everywhere.

[jimbo]

Man that looks a lot like the Forrest River products we looked at. Are you sure that they don't build them for him. I never saw such poor workmanship in all my life. Looked kinda like what your showing on your page there. I know at least 4 people that had to send their products back to the factory to have side walls replaced because of delamination issues. (At least they fixed the issues but the people were without their campers for a 6 Mo. average) The worse part is I saw the same flaws on their top of the line models that were on their entry level models.

[betsytom]

jimbo, we knew enough about motorhomes to realize that there was going to be issues but honestly we were not prepared for the number of very-very serious safety issues we had/have.

Criminal gross negligence pure and simple.

[jimbo]

I was just saying shoddy workmanship is very common in the rv manufacturing business. I worked for a van conversion Co. for a couple years when the auto business was down and I was laid off and the riva sticker means nothing other than they are a member of the manufacturers association. We put them on all our conversions. Believe me there were no standards. Except the D.O.T. requirements. They are pretty much free to do what they want. As you can see. Before I worked at the van manufacturer they did more service work repairing junk they built. Me and another fellow turned it around and the guys in service sat around bored once the junk they used to build went out of warranty. Our conversion vans could compete with the best after we redesigned all the wood products inside. There are several reputable manufacturers left out there and you can tell the minute you walk into their rigs. Yes they make a few lemons but everyone has a bad day the stuff your seeing in your rig is just horrendous.

[betsytom]

jimbo, I agree that there are some good manufacturers; I have examined very closely Born Free, Coach House and Dynamax and am very, very impressed with what I have seen. And we have been told, you would know better than us, that the highest quality for the money comes from Winnebago.

Its too bad that we learned this too late....

The RVIA organization should be arrested and deported, its a scam pure and simple.

[thomashand02]

:D things needed

1 flat screen tv
1 motorhome or travel trailer
1 tube of super glue

use all of the super glue on back of flat tv ----find a spot ---slam flat tv to that spot within 60 sec ---hold TIGHT FOR ONE MINUTE job completed :D try it it WORK'S

[betsytom]

Tom: This would be a deal breaker for Kermit and his posse; see I have calculated that it takes them 12 seconds to drill into/through the monitor cabinet with screws.
Spend another 48 seconds waiting for the glue to set :eek:

Not for ole Kermit Fisher and the people at Phoenix USA rv.